NFL Thread

[Matt450]

As the preseason is getting closer to an end, and regular season is about to start. I want to see what team you think is going to win the Superbowl. So who is going to win the Superbowl?

My vote of course goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Roxy]

the packers

[mumblez]

the packers

HEY ROXY! The packers :sheep:

[Davey]

LOl thats cold dude.. Then again Im a Miami fan.. Swimming with the fishes..

[Davey]

Oh if we had a sports thread this would be there.. Im not saying .. Im just saying.. :drinking05:

[Nikki]

As long as it's not the Packers it's all good :)

[Deeznuts]

Saints!

[Luck_e]

i'd like to see the Patriots win one more...give Vinny Testaverde that all elusive one superbowl ring (I hear he's retiring after this season...and a ring will bring him closer to the hall of fame...he freaking deserves it)....i'd like to see the Falcons go to the play offs under Harrington and the Texans under Schaub so i can make even more fun of what few Vick fans are left that their poster boy was really a shit quarterback and more a glorified running back....and of course my beloved Cowboys...were stronger better and wiser..and not so confined....were gonna kick ass....so my hope is Pats beat Cowboys in the Superbowl so Vinny can retire with a bang.

[mojojojo530]

I pick them every year...and last year I was finally right...The COLTS!!

[Malikot]

As much as they disappoint... I am still a Redskins fan till the day I die.

[herbman]

Well i believe in miracles...i say the dolphins :bananaangel:

[Davey]

Ehh one of the Bears players crashed his brand new freaking Lambhorgini(sp) and left it!! WTF...

[kolpaz]

Like to see the Pats/Cowboys in the big game, but the NFC as a whole is wide open. There are quite a few AFC teams almost guaranteed barring injury to be the class of the league, but the NFC is insane this year, there are very few teams other than the giants that you can write off at this point, should be a great year to watch....

[kolpaz]

Ehh one of the Bears players crashed his brand new freaking Lambhorgini(sp) and left it!! WTF...

it's ok, he held a conference to declare that he is fine, and just got a bit nervous, nothing to be alarmed at....... it's not like a mortal human citizen did it, it's ok for these guys.

[oBie]

my favorite team is the titans so even though everyone has already written them off as having a mediocre season im still saying they can make it to the playoffs. 2 best teams in the AFC are ravens and pats..nfc its a tossup theres so many average teams but i think philly will be good this year as well as the saints.

[Davey]

OMG guys please stop with the Pats.. It just hurts in a nasty "i just got my colon checked" kinda way..

[Cinjun]

Amen Davey!

Belicheck (sp) = Overrated!

Remember when he coached the Browns in the 90's? He was god awful!! But sine the Pats won 3 Championships, suddenly he's a freakin genius. Whatever. I call Bullshit. He was handed a machine built by Bill Parcels. Parcels left to coach the Jets & Billy boy took his already built machine in New England and won some championships. I would LOVE to see what Belicheck does with not so good teams............. Oh wait, we already did in the 90's with the Browns!! We all know how that turned out! I have an issue of Sports Illistrated back then calling him the worst coach in the NFL. And now, that same magazine calls him a genius! Whatever!!


But anyway, my pick is my Denver Broncos. Were gonna get our Super Bowl without Elway finally. All we need is to improve our pass rush and were straight. With Simeon Rice signing on for a year, I think that's gonna be much improved. Just think, Champ Bailey got 10 interceptions last year with NO pass rush. My god, just think what he'll get this year! Plus we got Dre Bly on the other side! I'm getting too excited! I can't wait for this season to get started!

[Luck_e]

In Bills defense...the Browns are a enigma of failure..they've had head coaches like Chris Palmer....and gurus like Butch Davis...and defensive genius Romeo Crennel...nobody can save these lackluster losers from the depths of NFL hell it seems.....who is to blame??? don't know....maybe Cleveland is just cursed to have a shitty football team.

[Davey]

Bleh Dolphins lost in ovetime to the damn Redskins!

[thetoecutter]

ok in five years it wil lbe the best team ever the niners :bounce:onto this year colt repeat
there are three teams i rout for each week
the niners been with them scince '79
the eagles love the home team
and who ever plays dallas unless it the gaints then i hope the stadium goes up in smoke

[leaddogman]

I'm a Steeler fan, how about the comment on the sports channel that said we will have to see how they do when they play a real NFL team next week. Did anyone else catch that comment.

[dudemanguy]

2 words -

Who Dey? :yes:

[firefly]

COLTS or bears....honestly, id love to see it again.

[Davey]

Bleh Dolphins lose again. They looked and played like shit.

[dudemanguy]

At least their D was better than the Bengals.

I mean, really...Cleveland? Derek Anderson with 5 touchdowns? Seriously? The Ravens offense must really blow.

[SunsetKid]

The Cleveland Browns are and always will be my favorite team. I don't know where that offensive explosion came from against Cincinnatti, but I'm thinking it's a one-time deal thing.

[kolpaz]

this cowboys game is killing me, a ton of dropped passes & penaltys!!!

[dath1]

Nikki, Luv U, But I still love the Packers.

[Luck_e]

first....whether your a spiritual person or not let's all say a prayer or well wishes to Kevin Everett and his family...secondly..if that dude DOES get back on the field and plays next season i say fuck the voting and hand that man the come back player of the year award....and what was with that Houston v Indianapolis game?? Texans were dropping like flies...holy crap....oh and one last thing....go Favre...breaking Dan Marinos games won record...fucking awesome

[__ChAnDLeR__]

Chicago.... OWNED! Go Dallas!

[Davey]

GAaaaaaa! Dolphins are 0-3 !!

[SunsetKid]

My Cleveland Browns came back down to Earth and lost to Oakland for only the second time in their last 8 meetings. It could be all downhill for them now. LOL...

[Luck_e]

My Cleveland Browns came back down to Earth and lost to Oakland for only the second time in their last 8 meetings. It could be all downhill for them now. LOL...

well.... Jamal Lewis seems to have found a spark somewhere and is doing quiet well...Derek Anderson is really coming out...i'm not saying he's the next Tom Brady but remember Tony Romo last year?? seems Romeo Crennel has the Browns ready and primed for a playoff run..and for once it's no joke

[Donut]

Thank you thank you thank you... for benching Wrecks Gross Man.

[Luck_e]

question (and i mean no offense to this) the last time Griese really did anything was with Denver in 2000 *or somewhere about*, can he really make that big a difference?? it's gonna be interesting to see

[Davey]

Fuckers! Dolphins are 0-4...

[dath1]

GO Packers 4-0

[Luck_e]

i'm laughing my fucking ass off at the dumphins, first they blamed Ricky Williams...then they blamed the bad quarterback situation, then they blamed Daunte Culpepper...well look at them now...their all mighty superhero savior Trent Green *for whom they royally screwed Daunte over for * can't do crap....i was laughing like a maniac the whole game against the Raiders as Daunte ripped them up with 5 t.ds. maybe once they get a decent line they'll shut up and win a few games...till then i hope Daunte takes the Raiders to the Playoffs and rub it in Miamis winless face...revenge is sweet...rock on Daunte.

[Luck_e]

oh...and why is everyone in San Diego screaming for Marty?? can anyone go back to the playoff loss and see it was MARtY that cost them the game?? why are football experts and San Diego fans blind and or stupid? yes there 1-3 under Norv...but in my opinion last years superbowl should have been Bears v Chargers...ya bring back Marty ball so he can screw you idiots out of yet another superbowl...

[Luck_e]

and i'm not EVEN gonna get started on the Bears

[Davey]

i'm laughing my fucking ass off at the dumphins, first they blamed Ricky Williams...then they blamed the bad quarterback situation, then they blamed Daunte Culpepper...well look at them now...their all mighty superhero savior Trent Green *for whom they royally screwed Daunte over for * can't do crap....i was laughing like a maniac the whole game against the Raiders as Daunte ripped them up with 5 t.ds. maybe once they get a decent line they'll shut up and win a few games...till then i hope Daunte takes the Raiders to the Playoffs and rub it in Miamis winless face...revenge is sweet...rock on Daunte.

You didnt have to write all that, just say.. Damn your Dolphins suck ass!

[Luck_e]

they don't suck ass their just making dumb moves...with Ronnie Brown and Chris Chambers if they had a good offensive line they'd kick ass.

[Davey]

O...M...F....G Dolphins lose with 1 sec left on the clock. Kris Browns field goal is good.. 0-5 .. I dont feel so good.. :spermy3:

[Luck_e]

and Trent Greens career may be over.I think Miami is as stupid and eats more shit than Atlanta but i hate too see Green go out like that.

[Luck_e]

whoawhoawhoawhoa........where the hell did that Buffalo defense come from?? they sure DIDN'T play like the worst ranked defense in the NFL. kinda make me worry about Romos chances vs The Patriots

[Davey]

Dolphins are 0-6. :hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1: :hitwall1:

[Davey]

We have sunk to a new low.. 0-7.. :hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1: :hitwall1::hitwall1:

[jamonkey]

i'd like to see the Patriots win one more...give Vinny Testaverde that all elusive one superbowl ring (I hear he's retiring after this season...and a ring will bring him closer to the hall of fame...he freaking deserves it)....i'd like to see the Falcons go to the play offs under Harrington and the Texans under Schaub so i can make even more fun of what few Vick fans are left that their poster boy was really a shit quarterback and more a glorified running back....and of course my beloved Cowboys...were stronger better and wiser..and not so confined....were gonna kick ass....so my hope is Pats beat Cowboys in the Superbowl so Vinny can retire with a bang.

thats what im talkin about, except for the losin to the pats in the super bowl...since we are a lil into the season, i will give my expert analysis..lol..New England sure does look unstoppable..but then again, so did the colts 2 years ago..they won 13 strait..then lost their next 4, includin their first playoff game..im predicting something like this to happen to NEw England..i see a surprise team in the super bowl in the AFC...Jacksonville or Tennessee may shock some people..in the nfc..not just because i like the cowboys..but they really are the best team in the NFC..and hands down play in the toughest division...the cowboys showed brilliance in their D last week against the vikings..limiting a powerful, and amazing running back in peterson, to a mediocre game..ure top 3 in the NFC are Dallas, Washington, and its a toss up between Green Bay, Tampa Bay, and the Giants...the super bowl, which is in AZ, which i just fucking moved from, is gonna be Dallas against Jacksonville

[leaddogman]

Steelers is my pick, but then I'm from Pa not that that matters either but the eagles havew this thing about getting there but never following up with the win. But at this point in the season the Pats and Ind are still unbeaten,so it will be one of them and someone else.

[Davey]

Dear God make it end. Dolphins are 0-8
:hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1: :hitwall1::hitwall1::hitwall1:

[Luck_e]

hey maybe the dolphins should take a page out of the Pats playbook and steal everyone elses...they need to do something or their going down in the history books and not in a good way

[Davey]

Woohoo!! Dolphins didnt lose this week!! .... Bye week... :lurker

[Jeffrc]

ugh im sure ill get crucified for this, but EVERY TEAM CHEATS!!!
sucks that my pats got caught, but they all do it, there are always rumors of weird things happening at visting stadiums(like the new one w/ teh colts pumping in crowd noise!) but noone really every gets caught, the pats did, they paid the price(losing a 1st round pick and a .5mil fine, lets just move on and discuss how they are 9-0 w/ really only 1 close game so far, against the colts who could very well go 15-1

[leaddogman]

Woooooohoooooooo Look at them Steelers!!!!!!!!!!!

[Luck_e]

easy for the pats to win...THEY STOLE EVERYONES PLAYBOOK...not hard to adjust your plays when you know exactly what the other team is coming at you with....even the dolphins could set passing records and be 8-0 if they knew the other teams play signals...and the Colts were found to NOT have intered with the Pats communications....i guess the pats were embarrassed that they were outplayed till they pulled out the colts playbook in the 4th quarter....imagine that...the pot calling the kettle black.,,, whinny hippicrites

[Davey]

Gaaa.. Dolphins lose with 46 secs on the clock. They dominated the game yet still managed to lose. For the year they are 0-9

[Luck_e]

i don't understand the Dolphins...first they trade for an aging injury prone quarterback and let go of another aging injury prone quarterback...they don't do anything to their offensive line to protect either quarterback yet blame them for all their problems...then they lose their real offensize weapon and how to they counter act this?? release their only good wide reciever so they have no one to throw to no one to run...are they trying to throw their season out or what?? i just don't get it...who's running this team.. Fox news executives?

[Davey]

i don't understand the Dolphins...first they trade for an aging injury prone quarterback and let go of another aging injury prone quarterback...they don't do anything to their offensive line to protect either quarterback yet blame them for all their problems...then they lose their real offensize weapon and how to they counter act this?? release their only good wide reciever so they have no one to throw to no one to run...are they trying to throw their season out or what?? i just don't get it...who's running this team.. Fox news executives?

Sounds like typical big business..

[Luck_e]

it just blows my mind davey..it's like their saying hey we hold the NFL record for the only team to do undefeated in a season so why not be the first team to go without a single win in a season too??

[Jeffrc]

its all about draft picks.. some teams will look and say "we have no chance this year, so why bother figning to get 8 wins, so miss the playoffs anyway. instead they look at the draft class, see who they like and shoot fo the pick they beleive they need to grab em at.

i still think the best story of this year is gonna be the pats, who should make it far in the playoffs, maybe even win it all, and still get a high 1st round pick thanks to SF blowing :)
before i hear the "blah blah cheat blah blah steal blah blah" crap, ALL TEAMS CHEAT, ALL TEAMS BEND THE RULES AND TRY TO GET AWAY WITH SHIT. the pats are just the ones that got caught. remember, it is LEGAL to tape the sidelines, you just cant do it from the oppisong teams side, if that guy was in the 1st row of the crowd beind their bench, it would be perfectly legal, and dont tell me some teams dont put people in the stands... im not foolish enough to say they didnt break the rules, but im also not foolish enough to beleive no other team does. and since they got caught, and the tapes were destroyed(according to the leagues report, which thats all we can go by to prove anything) they are still winning, so they must have photgraphic memories of what they saw in that 1st quarter opf the 1st game, and it someone applies to every otehr team in teh league, or they have illegal tapes from every team from past years, which means they must have beat every team this badly every year...
but wait, thats not the case, indy beat us 3 times in a row, last year in a key playoff game that we were way ahead in going into half time, and then they came back and murdered us.. so wait, does that mean they had out playbook in the 2nd half last year? cant be, only the pats cheat. if the pats comeback to win, they cheated, if indy does it by a MUCH higher margin, they are just a good team.. makes plenty of sense. better quit drinking that haterade, this year isnt gonna get much prettier for indy(bye bye freeney)

[Davey]

Actually I think Tampa Bay went winless for a whole season in the 70's. Though only 14 games at the time, the dolphins could beat that easily.

[Luck_e]

The last NFL team to go without a victory was the 1982 Baltimore Colts, who finished 0-8-1 in a strike-shortened season. The last team to play a complete season without a victory was the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who finished 0-14. The only other team to go winless in the game's modern era was the expansion Cowboys, who finished 0-11-1 in 1960. The 1-8 Jets loom as Miami's best shot at a victory.


factoid found from article written by Rick Gosselin

[Jeffrc]

i say they give phili a tough time this week, even tho idont think they will win, i think itll be close, which will help them get the confidence they need to actually win!

[Luck_e]

but if they lose that's pretty much their season and they may very well go on to end the season without one single victory...but hey at least they'll have the number one over all draft pick...and i bet they don't even touch that horrendous offensive line...

[Jeffrc]

nah, miami still has to play the jets again, if they can come close to winning this game, which i think they will, it will help them build momentum, so as long as they dont get blown out by Pit next week, they will go into the jets with some energy.

[Luck_e]

god i hope they can do something...i hear Ricky Williams was reinstated...wonder if he has anything left to give...

[Jeffrc]

i think they will play him, i mean what do they have to lose?
my pats won again, and madden said it best
"its not the offenses job to stop scoring, its the defenses job to stop them."
even when they brought in all the backups, eckel and evans were running like crazy! the pats o line is incredible this year.

[Luck_e]

i HATE the patriots...they ruined one of the greatest dynasties since the 49ers and Cowboys of the 80s and 90s....even NCAAs Baylor Bears would be undefeated and scoring 40 plus points a game and even win the NFLs Superbowl if they stole everyones playbook and cheated to win

[Davey]

I'm still numb... Dolphins are 0-10.

[Jeffrc]

i HATE the patriots...they ruined one of the greatest dynasties since the 49ers and Cowboys of the 80s and 90s....even NCAAs Baylor Bears would be undefeated and scoring 40 plus points a game and even win the NFLs Superbowl if they stole everyones playbook and cheated to win

keep on hating man
ive yet to see proof of any play stealing, please send a link to an article that points this out?

[Luck_e]

what do you think they fined Bill Bellichick half a mill and took a first round draft pick for??

[Jeffrc]

videotaping the opponents sidelines, not stealing a playbook, huge diff there killer, videotaping part of the first quarter to supposidly learn signs, and actually taking their play book, and using it in team meatings arent one in the same.. and again, its perfectly legal to tape the sidelines, you just cant do it from their sideline, if that guy had been anywhwere else, this wouldnt even be a topic.

[Luck_e]

signals and playbooks are different...but it's not hard for Moss to beat a corner when he knows beforehand exactly what the corner is gonna do...and it's not hard for the defense to beat an offense when the defense already knows what the offense has called up..i've already put money for the Patriots to win the superbowl by a wide margine...might as well make money off it even if it did ruin a great dynasty.

[jawz]

You can tape the sideline but not the signal callers. Thats what they did. The main reason for the fine was it was the 2nd time they got caught doing it and it was the same camera man. Another big thing was the possiblitly of them interfering with the Jets comm system.

[Luck_e]

i'm not saying their a good team...just that Bilichick ruined what could have been a dream dynasty...these are just my thoughts...not trying to start an arguement just saying i no longer respect or like the Patriots as long as Bill is on the coaching staff...and besides....i've been a Dallas cowboys fan since the early 80's....and we all know that history.

[jawz]

Consifering every team cheats i dont think it matters.

[Luck_e]

well we'll agree to disagree....either way i see the Patriots winning the Superbowl by 40 points or more...go Pats

[Luck_e]

holy smokes did anyone see that Steelers v Dolphins game?? talk about BORING...it was definitly battle of attrition and a defensive game...and to the people who say defense wins championships?? tell that to the Dolphins...they have a solid d with quiet argueably the three greatest linebackers not named Ray lewis...and are 0-11.

[Davey]

Oh thanks Luck_E for reminding me my Dolphins are 0 and fucking11.. Actually for such a low scoring game I thought it was very entertaining.

[Luck_e]

lmfao @ Davey... sorry bro.hey at least look at this way...at this rate they'll have the number one over all draft picked locked right up and can restart the rebuild process.See?? there is always a silver lining in every dark cloud

[cuckoldedkid]

Not a real big Pats fan. I don't dislike them. I'm a 49ers guy myself, so I won't talk crap about anybody's team. (except Dallas) Anyway since the Super bowl's probably going to be Pats/Cowboys, that definitely means I'll be rooting for Tom Brady and company.

[Luck_e]

49ers are an enigma...they got the talent and a good coaching staff...wonder what's missing...their better than what their playing.hopefully things will start clicking and get back to the winning tradition..always liked that team.

[Davey]

Umm nm Ialready posted about my crappy Dolphins. Disregard this post :lurker

[MrDoAll]

I have not followed the games in a long time but I was once a Cowgirls fan....I mean Cowboys fan...he he he

[Luck_e]

can we all take a moment to mourn a great loss in Football...early this morning Sean Taylor passed away tragically after being shot in the femural artery during a home burglary.True this is a man who had problems with authority and got in trouble on a few occasions...but undoubtedly was one of the best Strong Safetys in the NFL.He led NFL with 5 interceptions and was a huge playmaker for the Redskins defense.whether you liked him or not cause he was with Washington or other reasons...he was only 24..had a live in girlfriend and a child *who were both at home during the robbery* and a family who loved and supported him.it's a tragic loss in a season riddled with scandal and rag mag storylines.God bless Seans family...his friends..his teamates and all of us fans who were robbed of what could have been a potential hall of fame career.

[Poohbear]

49ers are an enigma...they got the talent and a good coaching staff...wonder what's missing...their better than what their playing.hopefully things will start clicking and get back to the winning tradition..always liked that team.

Their coaching staff is a bit suspect, Hostler has struggled with the play calling in his first year. It doesn't help that Nolan is super conservative and pulls all the strings, which also effects the play calling on offense. Also the O-Line took a step back this season. Neither Jonas Jennings nor Justin Smiley were playing well before they got hurt and Larry Allen hasn't been his dominant self. Gore went off against Arizona, but he's been banged up and looks tentative hitting the hole. He's also been hurt by the terrible play calling. As far as the passing game goes, their receivers are terrible and Alex Smith has been banged up. Trent Dilfer did well against Arizona, but he is what he is, a backup. Darrell Jackson was supposed to be a big playmaker, but all he seems to do is drop passes and be too slow to get away from defenders. Arnaz Battle has been their most productive receiver and he's really a #3 or #4 receiver. Vernon Davis is still lacking consistency, dropping balls and missing blocks. Defensively, the pass rush has been inconsistent at times, but they're on the field a lot usually.

Anyways that's my rant. Hopefully the young players on the O-Line continue to gel (Baas, Snyder, Staley) for next season. Add a fast, solid #1 receiver and this offense should be much more effective.

[Davey]

can we all take a moment to mourn a great loss in Football...early this morning Sean Taylor passed away tragically after being shot in the femural artery during a home burglary.True this is a man who had problems with authority and got in trouble on a few occasions...but undoubtedly was one of the best Strong Safetys in the NFL.He led NFL with 5 interceptions and was a huge playmaker for the Redskins defense.whether you liked him or not cause he was with Washington or other reasons...he was only 24..had a live in girlfriend and a child *who were both at home during the robbery* and a family who loved and supported him.it's a tragic loss in a season riddled with scandal and rag mag storylines.God bless Seans family...his friends..his teamates and all of us fans who were robbed of what could have been a potential hall of fame career.

I agree It's a shame this guy turned his life around yet couldnt escape where he came from. A great player and a family man cut down in the prime of his life.

[Luck_e]

i'm a lifelong Dallas fan so everyone from Washington to New York sucks ass...but i knew when we played the Redskins we had to watch out for Taylor or he was gonna eat us for lunch.what makes this tragedy even worse is it's being attached to what is being called a Miami curse..several Miami players have died the past decade from tragic somewhat related deaths.Football is all about rivalry and teams vs teams...but i was so touched to see the moment of silence at the hole in the wall home game against Green bay tonight...he may have been our rival and a hated enemy...but we respect and love the players who put it all on the line every week.God bless not only Taylor...but all he touched and those of us who lost a legend before his time.

[Davey]

Gaaaaaa! Last hope for a win was against the Jets and we got spanked. Dolphins are now 0-12.. :spermy3:

[Luck_e]

there's still a chance davey....there's still what 4 games left?? they may pull an underdog upset somewhere

[Jhicks]

Yea maybe the Dolphins will pull the upset on that Pats to end their undefeated season along with their winless one!

[Ashii]

PSH!!!!! They better not. I got faith in the Patriots. Yeah, I am a fan of theirs and not the home team (Bears..) so what? Pats RULE! :D

[Davey]

PSH!!!!! They better not. I got faith in the Patriots. Yeah, I am a fan of theirs and not the home team (Bears..) so what? Pats RULE! :D

OHh It is on girl!! Its on like Donkey Kong!!! I'll bet you 100 Boobie bucks on that game!

[Matt450]

I will set up a vbookie event for that when it gets closer.

[Luck_e]

pat's will win...i'd bet 1,000 boobie bucks and just to keep the peace i won't say why.

[Luck_e]

Jessica Simpson is a DISEASE...her stupidity makes her more annoying than explosive dairrhea, and cause of her stupid ass Romo had the worst day of the year and we lost to division rival Philly (you KNOW Terrell bitched him out for that one).How did he go from sweet wholesome Carrie Underwood to the Queen of stupid bitches?? i just don't get it.